Mind-body Stuff



A mind-body fitness company founder and a comedic mental health therapist hash out our deepest questions and life's challenges. We speak about how activating and joining the mind and body through music, movement and community can help us enjoyably and entertainingly navigate through this journey called life.


  • Why We Self-Sabotage

    03/12/2019 Duration: 49min

    Today, Bernice and Kali talk about self-sabotage, after being prompted by the new song of the week, Flames by R3HAB & ZAYN. They share different times in their lives when they have either self-sabotaged or almost self-sabotaged. They explore why we self-sabotage and what the fear is that lies under this need to destruct. It oftentimes comes down to a desire to control outcome or triggers feelings of shame or unworthiness. We have to identify where the desire for this behavior is coming from and what are the outcomes if we choose to self-sabotage.

  • Imposter Syndrome- Do you Feel Like You're Faking it?

    19/11/2019 Duration: 48min

    This week, Kali and Bernice respond to a listener's message about feeling like an imposter. They explore why we doubt ourselves and how to believe in ourselves. Imposter Syndrome is common and can either make us want to shrink or over-inflate to compensate for our feelings of inadequacy. They talk about where they feel inadequate and imposters in their own lives and roles and hopefully give some tips for how to manage your own feelings of being an imposter.

  • Celebrate to Elevate

    12/11/2019 Duration: 44min

    Do you have enough joy in your life? This week, Bernice and Kali share their epiphany that celebrating is the best way to elevate. They apply it to OULA, their personal lives, the work they are doing and the work they have yet to do. With our puritanical background of the importance of work ethic and focus on doing rather than being, we can get lost in how to find joy. When celebrating doesn't have to be earned, we can experience gratitude and joy for the simple pleasures of life. Because isn't that what it's all about?

  • Why Do You Do The Things You Do?

    05/11/2019 Duration: 57min

    Today, Bernice and Kali dive into the sources of motivation for humans and for themselves. They talk about modern society's obsession with instant gratification and our lack of patience, which is why it is so hard for us to stay curious about what motivates us. When we get so addicted to the outcome (as proven by Skinner and Behavioral Psychology), we forget to deeply connect to our motivation. Why do we do the things that we do? And do they give us satisfaction or are they just fulfilling our want for power, recognition and other ailments of the ego. Article referenced by Mark Manson: https://markmanson.net/how-to-be-patient Enneagram Test: https://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test

  • Oula Tulum and the Importance of Group Work

    29/10/2019 Duration: 38min

    In this week's podcast, Bernice and Kali talk about their trip to Tulum, what they learned about humanity and the importance of doing self work in a group setting. So many of us struggle with vulnerability and upholding the image that everything is fine! But in group work we learn that many of our struggles are shared and that we are not alone. With social media, especially, we feel inadequate to our peers and to ourselves and through personal work we in the group we get to realize that there is usually always a fear of being unloved or unaccepted that these fears affect us all and drive our actions and reactions. Take a listen and find a group! Or.... sign up for one of our workshops at www.oulafitness.com

  • How Do You Do Conflict?

    15/10/2019 Duration: 40min

    This week, Bernice and Kali talk about something that came up in the last podcast- why they avoid conflict. They both explore their reasons, which inextricably are connected to their fears, and their tendency to avoid when things get hard. They also note their differences in how they handle conflict and which conflicts are more intimidating. They talk about the importance of logic and reason when dealing with conflict and how to engage without becoming overly emotional. How do YOU do conflict?

  • Are You Hearing Voices?

    01/10/2019 Duration: 45min
  • Interview with Claire Robertson-Preis- Musical Genius

    17/09/2019 Duration: 01h06min

    In this episode, we interview Classical Singer and Oula Enthusiast, Claire Robertson-Preis. After many post Oula.One conversations, we decided it was time to pick this woman's brain-- on air! She takes on a magical, musical journey where we delve into synesthesia, the chakras, the 3 circles of energy and where we are in relation to not only music, but our physical and emotional reactions to it. Take a listen and be blown away by your own body and how you can interpret music. This could change everything for you.

  • Have You Become Unrecognizable?

    10/09/2019 Duration: 49min

    Thanks to a listener write-in, today Bernice and Kali talk about what happens when you become unrecognizable or when someone you love becomes unrecognizable. What do you do with this? As always, they encourage themselves and listeners to stay curious about the lessons, the blessings and the heartaches of these confusing times. In all long term relationships, with ourselves and with others, we will be confronted with these times of confusion and potential growth.

  • Traveling- The Good, The Bad and the Ugly

    03/09/2019 Duration: 52min

    In this week's episode, Bernice and Kali talk about traveling. This lighthearted podcast invites in accents, foreign lovers and romantic interludes of their 20's. They also talk about the importance of leaving your own routine and the many gifts of travel- both good and bad.

  • When You're Saying 'I'm F*cked,' It's Not Over.

    27/08/2019 Duration: 50min

    In this week's episode, Bernice and Kali talk about transitions in life in general and in their own lives. They highlight the struggles people have with transition and reflect on their own philosophies and strategies in navigating the unknown of change.

  • Science or Spirit: Alternative forms of healing

    20/08/2019 Duration: 47min

    In this week's episode, Bernice and Kali explore alternative forms of healing. After a soul retrieval this past weekend, Kali has a lot to share about the experience and how healing it was. They talk about their opinions, skepticism, and curiosity about both Western medicine and alternative forms of healing.

  • The Power of Manifestation

    13/08/2019 Duration: 56min

    In this week's episode, Bernice and Kali talk about the negative and positive aspects of putting thoughts into spoken word and the power that those words hold. They look at the role that fear plays in our desire to manifest and question their own definition of success. They explore their own experiences with manifestation, ambivalence, and enough-ness.

  • Aging

    06/08/2019 Duration: 51min

    This podcast starts with Kali going into journalist mode while asking the Queen B about her experience turning 57 last week. They then venture into their spirit ages (10 and 21) and how that affects how they feel as they age, their struggles reconciling the two and the affects (sometimes SHOCKING) that aging has had on their body. Hopefully you'll be laughing as you listen and reflect on your aging process.

  • Does Utopia Exist?

    30/07/2019 Duration: 52min

    Bernice and Kali talk about the problems that can arise when expectations are not met in many aspects of life, and also in OULA. The disappointment that people can feel when they realize that OULA is not a Utopia can be very hard for them to accept. They explore that nothing that involves humans is a utopia, because no one and nothing is perfect. They hope that OULA is faction of learning about life and human interaction- which will always be messy, beautiful, challenging and worth it!

  • Adulting is Hard!

    23/07/2019 Duration: 46min

    This week, Kali and Bernice talk about how hard it is being an adult! They talk about the expectations they had about how they would feel when they magically became this thing called "adult" and how the reality doesn't match the expectation. They also talk about wanting to hear the words "I am proud of you" and how surprised they are at their need to hear it. They share, as always, personal stories with honesty and humor with the hope that it makes people feel connected and not so lonely out there in Grown Up Land!

  • Anger Management

    16/07/2019 Duration: 51min

    Shut up! I'm not angry, you're angry! Today, Bernice and Kali have a heated discussion about anger! As one of the five basic emotions, anger is a fiery one that can intoxicate us with its power. But it also can overwhelm us, make us sick and destroy relationships. They question when anger can be beneficial and when it can be detrimental. Take a listen and see where you lie on the anger spectrum.

  • Respite

    02/07/2019 Duration: 34min

    Do you need a vacation? Is it hard for you to leave? Kali and Bernice talk about how hard it is to vacate, but how important it is to take a break from your life sometimes! They wonder why it is so hard to do just that, and they blame it on the Puritans for the massive guilt most of us feel about resting!

  • Forgiveness

    25/06/2019 Duration: 50min

    This week, Bernice and Kali discuss one of the hardest lessons for the heart; forgiveness. They explore how hard it is to forgive, but also that the true gift of forgiveness is to ourselves. The body holds trauma, anger, resentment and other emotions that can be released when we forgive. When we release these emotions, we can create space for light, love and healing.

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