Mind-body Stuff



A mind-body fitness company founder and a comedic mental health therapist hash out our deepest questions and life's challenges. We speak about how activating and joining the mind and body through music, movement and community can help us enjoyably and entertainingly navigate through this journey called life.


  • Food

    20/08/2018 Duration: 52min

    In this episode, Kali and Bernice talk about the effect of their food choices in their lives, and in the larger system of food production. They discuss how they decide what nourishes them, and the changes in their choices over time. They also cover the question of ethicality and quality of the food we find in our stores today.

  • Letting Go

    13/08/2018 Duration: 43min

    This week, Kali and Bernice respond to a listener letter. They discuss letting go, a topic that is part of OULA's Quarter 3 Workshop, Into the Light. Recorded in Twin Cities during training!

  • Kali Interviews Bernice

    30/07/2018 Duration: 47min

    In this episode, we get to know more about Bernice! Kali asks her questions about her family, her time growing up in Hawaii, how she met her husband, and how she found OULA.

  • Bernice Interviews Kali

    23/07/2018 Duration: 45min

    In this epsiode, we get to know Kali! Bernice asks her some questions about growing up, her passions, love for collaborating, and how she feels most "enrichened." Next week, Bernice will be answering questions from Kali!

  • Rejection and Resiliency

    16/07/2018 Duration: 51min

    ​In this podcast, Bernice and Kali talk about rejection and resiliency. How and when can rejection strengthen our sense of self worth and resiliency, and when do we take it so personally that we view it as failure. Using personal experiences we explore our own rejection and the different impacts it has had on our lives and relationships.

  • Honesty: When Is It Helpful and When Is It Hurtful?

    09/07/2018 Duration: 38min

    Kali and Bernice reference an email from a podcast listener about a relationship that has become strained because of her honesty. So we begin to question when honesty can help strengthen a relationship and when it can be manipulated as a weapon to hurt. We also talk about how honesty can help both individuals bring a mirror to their own faces and see what can be learned not only in the message, but in the need to share the message. Listen to Billy Joel's 1978 performance of "Honesty" here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuFScoO4tb0

  • Becoming Aware of Our Own Privilege

    01/07/2018 Duration: 46min

    In this emotionally-charged episode, Kali talks to Bernice about some harrowing realizations she's had lately that part of her belief system is based on privilege. They heatedly discuss how privilege comes with an immense responsibility and wonder "Why is it so hard for some to share? What are they so afraid of?" Listen at your own discretion- this one gets political!

  • Women Rising

    23/06/2018 Duration: 55min

    In this special episode, Kali and Bernice welcome their first guest to the show, Erin Erickson, Founder of Missoula Rises: Organization & Action founded in Love. They talk about the power of circles of women, their own journeys towards self-love and self-empowerment and how the OULA community has helped Erin step into her role as a powerful and compassionate leader.

  • In Darkness and Illness: Navigating our Mental Health Waters

    18/06/2018 Duration: 49min

    In this week's episode, Kali and Bernice explore curiously the topic of mental health. They give personal accounts of different points in their life that anxiety and depression took over and express gratitude for those who are working to break the stigma of mental illness. They also talk about medication, relationship with health care providers and personal advocacy and self-care.

  • Balance

    11/06/2018 Duration: 40min

    In this episode, Kali and Bernice talk about the different ways we can find balance in our busy lives- from our families, work lives, friendships, and relationships. They discuss how we can understand where our energy goes and find some strategies to deal with imbalances we might be facing.

  • News Got Ya Down?

    04/06/2018 Duration: 49min

    This week's podcast is an emotional one for both Bernice and Kali. They talk about the intense amount of sad and depressing news that we are bombarded with daily and how each of them deal with it. For some of us, news can be a tool for awareness and action, for others it can overwhelm and crush the soul. We all must explore our own ability to stay in the light as we read and absorb the sorrows of the world. ​

  • Being in Our Bodies

    26/05/2018 Duration: 44min

    This week, Bernice and Kali talk about the challenge of being in our bodies. Have you noticed how children don't even seem to be aware of their bodies, but move freely without judgment or shame? When does that change? Is there a way to resist the demands of society and the media showing us constantly that we are more valuable when we meet the standard of attractiveness? We talk about our personal struggles with negative self-talk and explore the ways we can reframe this dialogue.

  • Unpacking Our Backpacks

    19/05/2018 Duration: 37min

    This week, Kali and Bernice talk about the importance of acknowledging and honoring the darkness that we all carry within us (or in our "backpacks.") . As humans we all have aspects of masculinity and femininity, light and dark, yin and yang, and these contrasts are what make us whole. We look into how our culture is uncomfortable with holding space for the negative, but how Oula can provide a safe space to explore the complexities of the human experience, including bringing the shadows to light.​

  • Why Oula Moves Us

    14/05/2018 Duration: 43min

    "For something to change, it must first move." - Lara Heiman In today's podcast, Kali and Bernice talk about this incredibly true statement and how it not only works for OULA but how it can help us in the rest of our lives, too. When we invite movement, we can create curiosity, awareness and space for change. We also talk about why OULA itself is so hard to explain, but ultimately conclude that the mind and the body are never truly separate, and some of us come for the body stuff, some of us come for the mind stuff, and some of us come for the fun, but OULA will always meet you where you're at.

  • Control

    07/05/2018 Duration: 52min

    In this episode, Bernice and Kali talk about control...they themselves look at ways that they try to control aspects of their lives and question the motive of this need, if it's healthy and why they want it. Kali also has a big announcement- so take a listen and share your comments on Facebook or Instagram!

  • Self-Love

    30/04/2018 Duration: 42min

    Why is self-love so hard? In this week's episode we explore how our experiences from birth and childhood help shape the way we feel about ourselves, the importance of mantras (especially the ones that make you queasy to say out loud), the value of doing the "work" in community and narcissism. We've got some sing-a-long time, an intervention, lots of laughs and even more questions, as always.

  • Intimacy

    23/04/2018 Duration: 45min

    In this episode, Kali and Bernice dive into the importance of intimacy in building lasting, meaningful, and powerful relationships- whether that is a partnership, friendship, or any other important connection. They also discuss what intimacy means and the work it takes to foster in our lives.

  • ​Searching for our Porpoise, or Purpose

    16/04/2018 Duration: 42min

    Does the question "what is your purpose?" stress you out or make you want to punch someone? If so then this podcast is for you! Kali and Bernice talk about the pressure one can feel to "find your purpose" and how its detrimental to tie the idea into our career. Do all types of purpose require a service to others or is it possible to have a self-serving higher purpose? Take a listen and join the conversation.

  • #friendship

    31/03/2018 Duration: 41min

    Kali and Bernice explore their own friendship and how their own boundaries and trust issues affect how they develop and maintain relationships.  They also talk about relationships with males and females, their insecurities in new relationships and what makes a good, longterm and meaningful friendship.

  • Body Shame and The Poodle

    24/03/2018 Duration: 26min

    In this podcast, Bernice and Kali start with the quite heavy and all-too consuming topic of body shame. But by the end they are laughing about how actually ridiculous it would be to judge a chihuahua for not looking like a poodle, and hoping someday we can see this same ridiculousness with humans. "A culture fixated on female thinness is not an obsession about female beauty, but an obsession about female obedience." - Naomi Wolf Your Body is Not An Apology on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Body-Not-Apology-Radical-Self-Love/dp/1626569762

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