The Hustle & Flowchart Podcast



Every week we have conversations with the most successful people in our network. We learn their stories and the lessons learned before diving in and getting the real "meat." Every single show has actionable takeaways that listeners can implement in their own life or business. We focus on topics around traffic, brand awareness, and business systematization but have been known to go pretty "off script" from time to time to discuss a wide variety of topics to help people improve their lives.


  • Jenna Larson - How To Automate Your Facebook Group

    Jenna Larson - How To Automate Your Facebook Group

    06/05/2021 Duration: 01h14min

    Today we have Jenna Larson from Drive Performance Coaching and GroupTrack which is her cool CRM software that helps manage interactions and tracks messages on Facebook, and includes a boatload of other helpful options which we discuss on the show. This tool makes all of your customers feel like they are getting heard and are getting your attention so they will stay in your group know that you are invested in their success. We also talk about the potential of linking across various platforms, tracking these messages in the software, and the fact that it automatically saves the questions that are asked when people join your group, plus recommendations for you to send specific messages at the right time. Jenna looks at every problem as an opportunity that has led her to be like Nike - as her attitude is to just do it! We also talk about getting engagement through Facebook Messenger which will, in turn, get more engagement in the group, and then show your posts more often and get that algorithm going. When you’r

  • Tom Gaddis - Using Product Launches As Your Best Traffic Source

    Tom Gaddis - Using Product Launches As Your Best Traffic Source

    04/05/2021 Duration: 01h01min

    We’ve got Tom Gaddis from Offline Sharks and on the show today and he shares with us some modest wins and how he went from working for the Bubba Gump Shrimp Company to winning a ClickFunnels Two Comma Award. We also talk all about a blast from our past, the Warrior Forum, and Warrior Plus, and how it’s such a great way to see what’s trending and get feedback. Tom has a very cool perspective on how you can get into this market, test things out and grow an audience.  He has some awesome live stream concepts as well, and he uses it as an amazing opportunity to promote affiliate products, plus he’s having fun with it. We discuss how Tom is able to cultivate a buying community and a bond with his customers that most people never get, plus the ways in which he engages with them and keeps that momentum going while selling them more stuff on the journey based on what they need. Once you’ve had a chance to listen, be sure to check out our chats with Molly Mahoney for more ideas on using Facebook to gr

  • Therapy Session - Were Not Having Fun Anymore

    Therapy Session - We're Not Having Fun Anymore

    29/04/2021 Duration: 01h25min

    We’re back with another Therapy Session! Join us on today’s show as we dish about the time where we almost got eaten by a wild bear on a camping trip, some great questions we answered from the “What the Heck?” deck, as well as some fun we had with a new online tool we found. We also chat about the meaning behind the title of this show, how some recent time off has changed our perception about the business and what lies ahead. Not only do we share our memories of our earlier days (some good and some bad) and how they were pivotal to getting us to where we are today, but you’ll also hear all about our plans for our new podcast space, and our focus on even more creativity and fun than we’ve ever had before! Once you have listened, be sure to tune in to our previous shows with Erin Pheil and Marx Acosta-Rubio to get more insight on how to use your time more wisely, increase your happiness, and change your life for the better. “There’s a lot of stuff going on, and when we do things I want to make sure we are ser

  • Jackson Millan - How To Take A 12-Month Vacation While Running A Business

    Jackson Millan - How To Take A 12-Month Vacation While Running A Business

    27/04/2021 Duration: 01h20min

    Today’s episode with Jackson Millan is a great look into how he’s able to set up a business so we can be doing more of what’s fun and important. We all have this pull-back effect and let our minds wander when we are away from home. We need to figure out how to be the operators of the business, and one of the things that stood out for us was that we loved Jackon’s process with marketing, sales, delivery, and growth.  Marketing is only one piece of the puzzle of a successful business. We’ve figured out how to systemize marketing, but we still feel like we are stuck in the delivery elements of it. Jackson specializes in wealth creation for business owners and you’ll hear how he creates this for his clients, his F4 framework to get you there, how he prepared to take his year-long trip traveling to places where others couldn’t go, the importance of outsourcing, and how to look at your long term game plan to achieve what you really want. He’s got a lot of great frameworks which will get you thinking, no matter how

  • Molly Mahoney - The 3-Day Spaghetti Launch That Generated $300k

    Molly Mahoney - The 3-Day "Spaghetti Launch" That Generated $300k

    22/04/2021 Duration: 01h11min

    We’re back with another amazing show with Molly Mahoney, from The Prepared Performer today! In this episode, Molly is so tactical and we highly recommend you go to as this is one of the few ones where she shows her screen. You’ll see her dive into her Spaghetti Launch, where she pulled off a crazy successful launch. The beauty is she didn’t even have a ton of people going through there but still got crazy results.  We are in awe of all the live videos Molly puts out and she gives a boatload of tips on how to change up your Facebook newsfeed so that you can engage more with the content that you want to see, how to best use your Facebook memories to increase engagement, her daily STARS tactic. We also talk about ramping up our Facebook engagement in the groups, and with other social platforms, best practices for group posts, and how to track them as well as using friends lists the right way. After you’ve taken all this in, be sure to listen to our previous chat with Molly (where you’ll h

  • Bob Burg - Creating Influence Through Being A Go-Giver

    Bob Burg - Creating Influence Through Being A Go-Giver

    20/04/2021 Duration: 01h02min

    Bob Burg is the author of quite a few books, notably The Go Giver series, which is one of the very early ones we still reference, and it’s such a smooth read as it’s told in a story form. Being open to receiving is probably one of the things most people struggle with, and this came up in our conversation today as there’s this feeling that we want to constantly give value. For anyone who wants to give non-stop, the receiving does tend to make you feel guilty, so you need to be open to receiving.  Bob explains how to not only be open to receiving, but mastering your emotions an having empathy, even if you cannot completely relate to another’s situation, as well as letting go of the need to be right, communicating with tact and setting up a proper frame ahead of time so that the results of what you do will be beneficial and lead others to  react in a positive light. After you’ve listened, go check out our conversations with Nir Eyal and Brian Kurtz for more insight into how to build upon positive habits and pro

  • Bruce Clay - The Father of SEO Shares How To Future-Proof Your Rankings

    Bruce Clay - The Father of SEO Shares How To Future-Proof Your Rankings

    15/04/2021 Duration: 01h20min

    Bruce Clay of brings the heat on our show today, because the way he described how there’s a different algorithm for different keywords and different keywords you have to treat in different ways on the intent, the way he describes it, really simplifies the SEO game. You don’t have to make up rules and do all this trick stuff. Even when you use tools, all of our “competition” is getting the same data, you just need to be less bad at it than everyone else.  You have an advantage if you have this information, and one of the things that was fascinating is this is the first we have heard about this update in May which you’ll hear about on the show. You’ll learn about a plug-in, which will get your site speed to run quickly so you don’t lose visitors, and he’s been so entrenched in this world, you can tell he’s clearly the father of SEO. Once you’ve got your SEO wheels spinning, be sure to check out our chats with Gert Mellak and Nikhil Aitharaju & Ryo Chiba to go down the rabbit h

  • Sue B. Zimmerman - How To Create Engagement And Drive Traffic From Instagram

    Sue B. Zimmerman - How To Create Engagement And Drive Traffic From Instagram

    13/04/2021 Duration: 01h03min

    We’re chatting with Sue B. Zimmerman today, who is a go-to authority on all things Instagram. You can also check out a bunch of screen shares at HustleAndFlowchart,tv so you can follow along to get the visuals she shared with us.  Sue B. started her journey on the platform with her case study based on her retail experience, and she has evolved to use it in her business today with all the tactics and various functions available that most people are not utilizing. We talk about her use of a text expander and having pre-saved messages which are a huge time saver. Sue B. also has a very successful YouTube channel and we dive into her tactics, our own mistakes in trying to grow our Instagram channel, and how we’ve had to undo a lot of those errors.  From Instagram guides to Instagram reels to Instagram posts to carousels to  IGTV to IG Live and more, Sue has got you covered! She is truly an Instagram expert and is currently one of only 20 beta testers using Instagram’s new Mobile Monkey engagement tool, which she

  • Justin Donald - Investing For Cashflow And Covering Your Monthly Expenses

    Justin Donald - Investing For Cashflow And Covering Your Monthly Expenses

    08/04/2021 Duration: 01h06min

    Today we’re chatting with Justin Donald who has a podcast of his own, has authored the book The Lifestyle Investor, and he’s got a great way of thinking, as a lot of people are really good at making money, but Justin makes you consider what to do with it. He’s got a cool paradigm shift in regards to what you do with both your money and time.  You’ll learn all about how Justin has been able to create his investment lifestyle where not only are his monthly bills being met, but he is able to compound upon that income and use any excess to invest in some well thought out deals which are not run of the mill but also not high risk. He talks about what to do if you are just starting out with no assets, how to get your original principal back quickly, and well as his commandments for investing which had us nodding along. When you’re done, get some more financial advice from our conversations with Danielle Town and Markian Sich “Lifestyle investing is living life on your terms, and investing in a way that provides an

  • Bing Howenstein - Behind The Scenes of a Shark Tank Pitch

    Bing Howenstein - Behind The Scenes of a Shark Tank Pitch

    06/04/2021 Duration: 01h13min

    Bing has used his history of movie-making (he produced the movie “The Bachelor, for one”) to transform into physical goods with great success and with an appearance recently on Shark Tank and his amazing chair which you can find on his site On the show today, we have a fun chat about his experience appearing on the show, how he prepared his pitch ahead of time, his conversations with some of the sharks which did not make it on air, and what it’s really like to walk down that hallway and make your presentation. We also dive into his plans ahead with his chair technology, how he plans to expand his line of chairs to other markets such as gamers, as well as his involvement over the last with, a much-needed organization that matches up people who want to help others affected by the covid crisis with those in need. After you get your mind reeling with ideas, be sure to check out our chats with Jeff Vacek and Robo Hendrickson for more tactics and insight on how to get more traction to ge

  • Rich Schefren - The Secrets of Being Rich

    Rich Schefren - The Secrets of Being Rich

    01/04/2021 Duration: 01h28min

    Today we’re back with our friend and mentor, Rich Schefren of Strategic Profits, and who is known as the guru to the gurus, so it’s a great honor to chat with him. We’ve had him on the show a couple of times before and on this one, we talk about his perspective on how he’s building up his membership community, as well as some of the other cool stuff he’s doing with Jay Abraham. Rich is a brilliant strategic thinker and this episode has a wide rage of conversations that we know you will love and which will take you from writing a book, his dealings with Agora as well as ClubHouse. Once you’ve listened, be sure to check out our chats that we referenced on the show with Gary Henderson and Felicia Pagesh for more insight on getting noticed and building up your network.  “It’s one thing to do a live stream, because people get to know you vs. someone stumbles across your video and you’ve got a lot less time to deliver the goods before they decide it’s a waste of their time.” - Rich Schefren   Some Topics We Discu

  • Therapy Session - How To Build A Site To $500+ Per Month

    Therapy Session - How To Build A Site To $500+ Per Month

    30/03/2021 Duration: 01h08min

    We are back with another Therapy session! Today we talk about a variety of subjects, starting with our thoughts on how to build a website and make it profitable enough to sell. This stemmed from our previous chats with Matt Diggity and Greg Elfrink, which were hugely popular and generated some questions from our listeners, including how to build up a site to $500 per month. We discuss a variety of ways to do this, where to go to find the best writers, how to create a site even if you do not consider yourself an expert, and how to team up with influencers so that you are orchestrating all the content. We also talk about our recent launch with, some amazing results our members are having already, our plans for affiliates to promote, and our thoughts on all the recent discussions about NFT’s and some major players on YouTube as well. As usual, we love creating these shows for you as it gives you a behind the scenes look into our business in addition to our take on the latest chatter in the marketin

  • Brian Moncada - A Complete Framework For Successful YouTube Ads

    Brian Moncada - A Complete Framework For Successful YouTube Ads

    25/03/2021 Duration: 01h12min

    If you want to learn a thing or two...or a hundred about paid YouTube ads, then you are going to absolutely love today’s show with Brian Moncada. This show is a literal masterclass in YouTube advertising. Brian runs, and he’s behind the YouTube ads of folks such as Tony Robbins, Frank Kerns, Russell Brunson, and Dean Graziosi, and he also helped with the launch which was the biggest in internet marketing history.  He’s got an amazing process and strategies which he’ll share with us today. You’ll learn how to create the ads, what the ads should say, how to do the targeting, how to save money with your ad spend, what click-through rate you should be shooting for, how to set your bidding, as well as some examples of text to use to get those clicks. Once you’ve listened, be sure to check out our previous chats with Tommie Powers and Marc Guberti for even more tactics on how to get your YouTube strategy dialed in.  “Build the business enough to where you’re making a significant amount

  • John Lee Dumas - How To Be Uncommon As A Podcaster

    John Lee Dumas - How To Be Uncommon As A Podcaster

    23/03/2021 Duration: 01h04min

    Are you ready to ignite?! Today we have John Lee Dumas on the show from Entrepreneurs On Fire, and he’s got a brand new book called The Common Path to Uncommon Success. John has completed over 3,000 episodes with over a hundred million listens. We dive deep into how he thinks about podcasting, how he would launch another one, and how he's growing in general and making money off it. We also talk about his dealings with a big publisher, the behind-the-scenes of his new book, how he got connected with a big-name publisher, and how he’s monetizing his guests which was an interesting discussion. Speaking of podcasting, what better show to shout out that we have a brand new podcasting course called and if you join us today, you’ll learn how to build a tribe, grow your business, and create multiple streams of income by simply copying a plug and play system. When you’re done be sure to check out our show where we dive into all the awesome details behind the PodHacker community as well as our chat with

  • Guy Kawasaki - How To Be An Evangelist As A Career

    Guy Kawasaki - How To Be An Evangelist As A Career

    18/03/2021 Duration: 01h16s

    Today we have the pleasure of speaking with Guy Kawasaki who is the chief evangelist of Canva and the creator of Guy Kawasaki’s Remarkable People podcast. You are going to love him as his stories are amazing and his perspectives are unique. He’s also the author of fifteen books, including The Art of the Start 2.0 and his latest book is Wiseguy. He’s also worked at Apple alongside Steve Jobs and that’s probably where you’ve heard of him. We chat about his views on ClubHouse, what makes him want to work with someone, how he’s been able to connect with amazing people as well as why the heck he’s always smiling so much!  We also chat about his thoughts on what makes a good podcast interview, how he researches his guests and some sample questions he has started his show with. After you’ve listened, be sure to check out our past shows we’ve done with Esther Kiss and Dustin Matthews to give you some additional intake on podcasting and making connections.  “I think the first checkmark is competence. The second check

  • Gary Henderson - How To Connect And Network With The Most Influential People

    Gary Henderson - How To Connect And Network With The Most Influential People

    16/03/2021 Duration: 01h26min

    This episode did not disappoint one bit, as we chat with Gary Henderson today, who was an open book on how he’s been able to help some of the biggest names we know blow up their brands. Lewis Howes, Gabby Bernstein, Michael Hyatt, Hal Elrod and Jeff Walker are just some of the folks who have all connected and have been helped by Gary. We actually met Gary on ClubHouse and realized how brilliant he is, and that we needed to have a deeper conversation with him. He’s a master connector and networker, and on the show, we dive into how he shows up in people’s lives and businesses and how he’s making these connections while playing the long game. We also chat about his new book he is publishing, how he got connected to Hay House Publishing, as well as how to connect with influencers. Then the talk turns to how he’s leveraging ClubHouse to not only network, but grow his own audience. When you’re done getting networking ideas from Gary, learn even more tips on how to stand out and make a difference by checking out ou

  • Crystal Dwyer Hansen  Mark Victor Hansen - Solve ANY Problem By Asking The Right Questions

    Crystal Dwyer Hansen & Mark Victor Hansen - Solve ANY Problem By Asking The Right Questions

    11/03/2021 Duration: 01h16min

    Today we have the pleasure of speaking with co-authors, Crystal Dwyer Hansen and Mark Victor Hansen and we’ve been waiting for this one for a while. Mark has had an amazing entrepreneurial journey and has written 312 books to date. Crystal brings her expertise in the field of human potential and they have combined their knowledge to talk about the specific questions and things that have created this interesting experience that Mark has had over the years.  They discuss their most recent book, Ask!: The Bridge from Your Dreams to Your Destiny as well as their book club, which is going to get you asking the best possible questions so you can get basically anything you want out of life. We also talk about getting back to your childhood roots, the three different ways to ask questions, what to do if you get a variety of answers, as well as how to address the blocks that may be holding you back. After listening, go check out our conversations with John Assaraf and Nir Eyal for more tips on how to overcome limiti

  • Sean Vosler - How To Sell Through The Power of Storytelling

    Sean Vosler - How To Sell Through The Power of Storytelling

    09/03/2021 Duration: 01h38min

    Today’s episode was a long time coming and is one of Matt’s oldest friends in the digital marketing space. Sean Vosler is in the house today, and he’s a king of social media, and he’s got a beautiful book called 7 Figure Marketing Copy. He dives into copywriting philosophies and strategies and he’s going to talk all about that on this show and how he was able to sell 25,000 copies, without ever using Amazon. We also talk about copywriting strategies, His ideas on ClubHouse, how he designed the book, our ideas on knowledge management, and reading books. You’ll also learn a lot about storytelling and if you are into nerdy digital marketing, you are really going to dig it. After you've listened, be sure to check out our chats with Anik Singal and Sue Rice for even more copywriting tips and tactics. “Whatever it is that you are selling, try to think of the outcome of that, and focus on selling that as opposed to the thing you’ve been selling and you can increase your rates quite a bit.” - Sean Vosler    Some Top

  • 13 Badass Women Share 13 Badass Tactics for International Women’s Day

    13 Badass Women Share 13 Badass Tactics for International Women’s Day

    08/03/2021 Duration: 01h29min

    Today marks International Women’s Day, a day dedicated to all the amazing ladies around the world. On this special day, we’d like to pay tribute to the badass women who we have had the pleasure to have as guests on the show during 2020. Check out some of the awesome strategies and tactics which we have covered via these badass gals!   Sue Rice - Storytelling Tips Nicknamed the ‘female David Ogilvy’, Sue Rice is famous for writing award-winning copy for countless entrepreneurs and we chatted about her email copywriting tactics which enable her to deliver record-breaking open rates. One idea is to make connections between things that are seemingly unrelated. We are swimming in a sea of metaphors and part of it is just being conscious of it. One way to make it interesting and bring it into a fresher light, is extensive reading, watching movies, etc. The magic is in everything that’s around us.  Sue listens to the news on the BBC, which has very clever writers. She also uses an app called Clipboard where you can

  • Ryan Lee - Building Brands, Cultivating Communities, And 80s Movies

    Ryan Lee - Building Brands, Cultivating Communities, And '80s Movies

    04/03/2021 Duration: 01h24min

    Today’s guest is someone who’s been in the industry since the late 90’s which is when we discovered Ryan Lee and have followed his work since then. We love how he tells it like it is in the marketing world. He’s the founder of Freedym, a free community that is basically the Netflix of marketing and entrepreneurship. We, along with a bunch of other high-level entrepreneurs have contributed content to his membership area. On today’s show, we talk about how to dial in your branding to build a cohesive brand for your business. We also talk about how to build a community around your brand, even if your brand is a physical product or a more boring brand. Plus we chat all about email marketing, Ryan’s obsession with the 80’s and how to inject the things you love in your personal life into your marketing and business. Ryan is a ball of energy and we know you’ll have as much fun as we did during this interview. After you’ve listened, be sure to check out the past shows we’ve done with Dan Norris and Lisa Buyer to gi

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