The Tom Barnard Show

Today we have a guest that always seems to be somewhere in the background of this show, whether on the phone or in the other room. It's Pat Ebertz, and he's making his rare appearance on-mic. Naturally, this got everyone agitated. Or perhaps it was because of Gelfand and Tom debating politics. It's one of the two. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.