What Now Derek?

This will be the final episode of What Now in this format. Derek and Dan will be continuing their weekly rants as a new podcast called "Hang On To Your Hat" which will be focussed on fatherhood and WE HAVE MOVED. please subscribe to the new site.... Hang On To Your Hat..We'll have guests and phone interviews. It is going to be great. As for What Now, Derek plans to rebirth it as a short daily news/ opinion show. That is also going to be a lot of fun.

Derek gets a spam call live on air. Dan's play Bottomless is in full swing so there's time to go see it. We discuss thin skin and coping with reviews. Dan surprises Derek with news of his next project. Shoutout to our listener Cherie and apologise for never looking at Twitter. The wall between the fictional ART of film and the behaviour expected when the cameras are off. Derek's new tech reveals we are recording a VIDEO. How do casting agents approach people for ugly parts? Do podcasters get the same licence to be offensive? We say NO. We catch up on the new tech at Castaway. all set for live streaming and video-ing podcasts. The secret life of twitter (and Cherie). JJ learns not to let me know what he's up to in bed before I have finished editing.

Dan and Derek catch up by phone during a hectic time for the both of them. Dan explains the way to not die in Hanoi traffic. Derek's famous (and soon to be more famous) desk goes on a journey. Dan's play coming up fast and our plans for the show next season.

Derek and Dan finally catch up using magical phones and recorders. Derek is wrangling elderly parents as Dan begins rehearsals of his Australian debut play. That said, he has a play running in America and soon in England, but this is the first on home turf. We get an insight into the preparation involved in putting on a play, and how the writer's work is not over till the opening night. A plague hits the Lee household while Derek toys with doing the right thing for racehorses.

A quick phone call to Dan (in Broome until next week) to catch up on the news quickly slips into religion and a trip into the dark past. Thanks to our caller Cherie from Canberra, we explained the background of our relationship... from quoting Withnail and I on the beach in the early 90's to Dan wandering in with Missy years later. Apparently podcasting face to face is like AA, and a little like praying to a god who isn't there. Dan discusses the amazing contacts he has reconnected with while in Broom and how he has some good content for his upcoming (secret) podcast. Recording Space Gandalf, the home schooled astronomer sky-tour-guide and frogs barking. Perfectly normal things to do on holidays.

What Now host Dan Lee becomes the first Aussie podcaster to hang with Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. Yep, it is true. A big scoop for What Now. In this episode Dan discusses what it is like to chat with the Prince, and what it is like to be the Plus One at the big events. Somehow it gets onto our disgraceful interactions with the police in more youthful times. Dan is happy to be back in Broom and right now is probably standing on a deserted beach with a fishing rod. Pfft. can't be as good as typing shownotes in Preston while watching the Bachelorette.

Josh Janssen, international podcaster joins derek while Dan is away. Josh, who partners with Tommy Jackett on the Daily Talk Show, talks with Derek about our similarities and differences as podcasters. The Importance of a tech setup and how that varies depending on each persons personality type. Derek fills in the weary traveller on highlights of OzPOD 2018, an ABC organised National Podcasting conference. (which was great BTW) A long day in the saddle was well worth it, from an insight into the big time podcast production styles through tech and sound engineering to Indy podcasters explaining how and why they got started. Dan's absence (and very good looks) is noted. We will let him tell us whay he is away... It is a SCOOP.,... Josh worries about bringing a kid into a doomed world, and Derek says ""breed an army of world savigng post-millenials"" We had better get ready to be despised by future gens. Veganism. Why are we discussing veganism? Derek's shopping bag guilt... we shall get there in the end. H

The The concert, dead cow in a Love and other bruises. D&D reminisce about the old days of eighties British Pop over sharers such as THE THE which leads Dan to share some of the dark observations of natures brutality that he made while growing up in the countryside of south Gippsland. Dan returns from Mardan and Leongatha with a roadside Bonsai that he liberated with a pic and shovel and Derek requires more information about tree collecting. How not to kill a Bonsai and the art of spotting animal bones from a moving car. Life and death on the farm. Killing rowdy roosters in Broome. Vietnam Veterens, Robot soldiers, Derek's bid for the Nobel Peace Prize, protecting the kittens at all costs, the back story of bones. The ethics of Bonsai, bird breeding and Guppy fancying. The quick guide to Guppy breeding.

Body dismorphia. Pooing your way to weight loss and if that doesn't work get on the meth diet. Listening to kids music 'cause you're too old to cope with the emotions your old records bring up. Dan's Mum leaves a message revealing his fetish for drinking a baby bottle. Derek had a duck that had a cork screw old chap and other childhood horrors.

Through stuffed up sinuses, Derek discusses being aware of the possibility of a heart attack compared to Dan being aware of every single person in a crowded room. wiping the slate clean with grog. Is exhausting crowd consciousness due to fear, past trauma Or possibly a throwback to the fight or flight mechanisms that make you scan for enemies, scope the battlefield and plan your escape. 7 pints of cider a health day for North London Irishmen. Dan can't wait to have his brain plugged into the cloud. God help us if that is just mega cyber twitter. Optus help us to take moral high ground on over use of technology - because it doesn't work. Back to basics would be a great idea but will possibly be only available for the privileged. Baby Boomers broke the world, Gen X rode the destruction eating focaccia and buying houses off their own grandkids, Gen Y got busy making Millennials to train to SAVE us all.

Meal replacement drinks... why do they have to be dressed up to look and taste like the shit you shouldn't ever consume after you have lost the weight? Every bastard has weight loss advice for 100KG plus guys... even Dan suggests a big tapeworm and methamphetamine addiction. Mums were speed addicts Derek admits to just following nutrition advice that other blokes have paid for. Derek introduces a new podcast in production "The Good Paddock" that will go deeper into all this male weight stuff. We start a conversation about social media that has a long way to go....

In one hour we cover....Yakandanda parma, Wake in fright, Crocodile Dundee Vs Wolf Creek, [Will Hanigan the pearl Dundee][1] Dating Demi Moore. Alby Mangels world safari. Hay-fever Noobs amuse Derek as they turn into sooky Dr Smith. The Baby Whisperer or Mrs Doubtfire with chloroform up her sleeve? Mortgage talk... zzzzz. pure boring evil corporate vampires. Also why would a corporation or local government begrudge a small payrise if it means losing half of their productivity? Dan once worked moving office furniture around and around the same building... I suspect candid camera. Derek retells his Dad's old Navy Stories. Old Tom built the engines for the last working British steamship. Eastern suburbs railway stations of the 1980's Setting Goals and achieving them, one trolley of beer at a time. Former death metal singer Dave Dread, who has been on a fascinating journey to happiness. Vegan stage spitting and fake talkback callers. Phew.

Derek attempts to stay up to date with social media and all its nuances, while Dan goes caveman on the whole thing.

DEATH and the journey towards it. Dan has some ideas about how to make it a bit more interesting.

38 crank yankers. It takes a special kind of self loathing masochist or a saint to be a teacher. D&D discuss the merits and malice of being a teacher, followed by a Yoko appreciation session- it is agreed that she was ahead of her time and didn't deserve the hate. Dan briefly loses consciousness while Derek prattles about the Bachelor, Bachcraft, and fortnite. The very first messages are left on the what now special message service. Tuffy Selecta. Gun exposure in the 70's when everyone had an air riffle and shot their mates for recreation., "my dad shot someone", baby 2 novelty worn off from stopping everything, Hidden crazy people of Hanoi and the hairy nipple of disappointment.

37 D&D go deep, deep into a hole of despair and unclear gender roles before resurfacing only to confront the dangers of putting children in water. Should we just let go and let God decide or should we protect our children every second of every day. Is there enough love for two kids and if there is can you stretch that to your partner as well. The great foreskin debate turns into Dan probing Derek for any trace of transgender inclination- can we expect a lady Derek in future? Perhaps not. Dan unpacks his attempts to be gay in the old days, working at the hotdog stand at the Peel. Sexuality is a spectrum and in a world of spectrums is it okay to speculate about whether people are on one.

D&D digress into the strange world of teenage ferreting but not before Dan could reminisce about the school Kidnapping trend of the late seventies, Derek knows too much about the leyland p76, and the time Dan took the guy from the Dandy Warhol's to the Tankerville. Don't talk to the big ones is the lesson learned the hard way. 9.5 million dollar holy hanky, Free range baby boomers and itchy grubs.

The block universe theory sends the blokes up the garden path and into the maze of Derek's mind. What follows is a baffling sojourn into Derek's Spaghetti tree, frozen gelatine metaphor with additional comparisons to the NBN and fibre optics to the complete bewilderment of Dan. Is stealing from the council really stealing if you pay your taxes? Is masculinity really as toxic as everyone says it is? Is it safe to say what you think even if you might be wrong? Or should old white men just shut up from here on in? All this and more when you find yourself once again asking: What now Derek.

D&D confess to a shared love of seventies balladeers, Air Supply - Discuss their options when the kiddies ask the tough questions and cover such topics as: The Heaven's Gate Millennial Death Cult, bush-dancing for scooter nerds, the innocence of youth, recreational surgical castration and the Vatican's attempts to shrink a camel so that it might pass through the eye of a needle.

Derek And Dan go DEEP. In this bonus Monday episode, the lads go straight into Christian religion. It's uses and flaws. The benefits of imaginary friends and ritual in human nature lead them to the conclusion that life would be easy without the crippling logic of atheism. Understanding - the basis of Derek's 80's hippy beliefs is the basis for the process of stopping the us vs, them mentality that is being used by politicians of all sides.