Kurt Fearnley's Tiny Island

El Gibbs describes herself in her Twitter profile as a grumpy optimist and her handle is Blunt Shovels. That may be El's self assessment but I'd add words like fierce, determined and truth-teller. El is a tremendous (and loud!) voice for Australia's disability community and it was wonderful to sit down and yarn about some of the things which are impacting people with disability.  Chatting with El is always eye-opener and a reinforcement of the work we still have to do for better inclusion, acknowledgement and caring in Australia.