Talking Shop W/ James Dugan & Rob Grabowski

This week, James and Rob are joined by actor/writer/improviser and nice guy: JOHN LUTZ!   They talk with John about his start in Chicago, creating new forms, auditioning for SNL, paying attention, working on 30 Rock, and being imtimidated by nice people.    Follow John on twitter @ shutuplutz and listen to ESCAPE FROM VIRTUAL ISLAND   Like what we do? support our PATREON! (only a few more episodes to do so)   As always, please rate, review, and subscribe.