Talking Shop W/ James Dugan & Rob Grabowski

This week, James and Rob are joined by fellow podcaster: Kelly Leonard!   They talk with Kelly about his start at Second City, how he rose through the ranks to become Executive Vice President, why he stepped down, the new path he found, the true business of improv, and the importance of dinner clubs.    Follow Kelly on twitter @ KLSecondCity   And check out this podcast Getting to Yes, And.   Like what we do? Support our PATREON   As always, please rate, review, and subscribe.