Achievement Oriented

The Ringer's Ben Lindbergh and Jason Concepcion speak to director Doug Liman about the influence of video games on his movies 'Swingers,' 'The Bourne Identity,' and 'Edge of Tomorrow' (2:44), the narrative differences between video games and movies (8:57), how to tell stories in VR (13:38), and his latest projects, 'The Wall' and 'Invisible' (16:17). Then they bring on college football star and NFL first-round draft pick Jonathan Allen to talk about his taste in video games (24:21), his plans to build a gaming PC (25:40), how he fits gaming into his football schedule (28:09), and his two big complaints about games (37:17). Lastly, they ask Ars Technica senior gaming editor Kyle Orland about a court case involving Valve and Blizzard that will decide who owns the rights to the mega-popular 'Dota' series (39:44). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices