Achievement Oriented

The Ringer's Ben Lindbergh and Jason Concepcion first talk to William Collis, cofounder of Gamer Sensei, an esports startup that matches players with coaches who tutor them on how not to be bad at games (2:14). Then they welcome colleague Claire McNear to celebrate the first birthday of 'Pokémon Go,' discuss how the game has evolved, and explore the depths of Claire's determination to "catch them all" (26:44). Lastly, they bring on economist Ernie Tedeschi to critique the controversial claim that games have gotten so good that they're keeping young players unemployed (43:55). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices