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Sam and Marnie sit down with cartoonist/animator Lale Westvind (Hot Dog Beach, Hyperspeed to Nowhere, Now and Here) to talk about spontaneity in cartooning. Also in this episode: Cartoonists who don't read comics, rules that set you free, and favorite stories by Jorge Luis Borges. Sam recommends: Netflix/BBC TV show "The Fall" Marnie recommends: The Yahoo Screens TV show "Other Space"