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Taking some time out from performing at the Victoria Fringe Festival in British Columbia, Western Canada, Charles Adrian is joined for the 129th Second-Hand Book Factory by mother, artist, performance artist, independent thinker, recovering academic, dog mother, cat mother, teacher and (in some ways) activist Tasha Diamant. They talk women living in brutal circumstances, what makes an artist an artist and Aboriginal Australians. You may notice some slightly strange background noise in this episode. I mean, quite apart from jingle jangling, mewing and sighing of cats and dogs. The strangeness is because of the way my noise-removal software interacts with the sound of cars going by outside the window. More information about Tasha is at http://www.humanbodyproject.org/. Episode image is a detail from the cover of The Songlines by Bruce Chatwin, published in 1988 by Penguin Books; cover design by Melissa Jacoby; cover engraving by William Blake after a drawing by Philip Gidley King, third governor of New South Wa