Wit Twin Cities's Podcast

John is a farm kid from North Dakota who found his way to software development. And not long after that, he discovered the importance of being an ally and advocate. His allyship journey began when he had two interns, one was a man, the other a woman - and he could see, right in front of him, how they were treated differently. It was then that he started asking questions and encouraging others to do the same - to think about not just what they say, but the tone they use and how it can be or seem different with different people. We talk about green beans, bathrooms, getting uncomfortable, and the importance of bringing allies along on the journey. (And if you are wondering about the Batman and Robin thing, read this: https://coreytponder.medium.com/allyship-is-not-the-heros-journey-3397eb885072)