It's All Political

Miriam Pawel, author of "The Browns of California: The Family Dynasty that Transformed a State and Shaped a Nation," joins Joe Garofoli to talk about Gov. Jerry Brown's legacy — a word he hates. Brown was the youngest, the oldest and the longest-serving governor in California history. His father, Edmund G. "Pat" Brown, was also governor, and Pawel's biography of the family is a panoramic history of the state going all the way back to the Gold Rush.    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices