On today's episode we talk about an upcoming podcast on the 1517 network of podcasts. We are talking about why people live the church- something about which there has been no end to the writing of books. So we want to try and whittle down the question: why do people leave thus church? And we want to be sympathetic and open to correction. George Barna and others have spent the past decade telling us about the Millennials and Gen-Z, so what do we do about it?