So this is show 300. And it's recorded on location in Dallas, TX. This interview was going to be in a series of interviews on craftsmanship, vocation and creativity. And trust us, April is one talented woman. You can check out her stuff on Aprilkirby.com- she tells stories, makes videos, and helps to document important life events. But, it's a little different than we thought. Dan met April and her husband Clint about a year ago here in Dallas and was dranw to their particular journey in the creative world and the church. So, the interview started by talking about the church, and didn't really leave that topic. But it wasn't the conversation we were expecting. It was more timely and important than we could have thought. A quick note about the subject matter: this isn't a show for kids, and it touches on some issues of sexual abuse in the church. Ultimately, we want to foster the kind of listening that allows victims of abuse to feel safe, comfortable and worthy of sharing their story.