Afternoons With Rob Breakenridge

A pastor in the US says when he looks at Trump's supporters, the word that comes to mind is "miserable." Have we become more miserable? Can we turn it around? Where is our joy? Guest host Zack Hewitt speaks with John Pavlovitz, author of the forthcoming book Hope and Other Superpowers: A Life-Affirming, Love-Defending, Butt-Kicking, World-Saving Manifesto. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices