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Fresh Off The Bench with Cary Chow, Prim Siripipat, Michele Steele, Marc Lucero and Justin R. Ching Topics:  Serena vs Osaka Drama   Who is Carlos Ramos? Meltdown or Composed? Serena fined $17K ... a bad look? The traditions of tennis Media presentation  Gender and Race Male stars get more rope Was Serena to blame at all? "Thief" Casual fans have no frame of reference  Naomi Osaka's reaction vs Japanese culture Courtesy Culture Osaka's youth showed Japanese media  Code Switching  End   Support us on www.patreon.com/countthedings Find us: www.countthedings.com Social: @back2backpod @countthedings Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices