Make Me Smart With Kai And Molly

We’re not in a government shutdown. Instead, we’re talking about consumers spending like it’s still hot girl summer. Concerts, travel and shopping sprees seem to remain a priority for many in this economy. We’ll discuss how this might be a sign of shifting attitudes around debt. Plus, there’s a market for everything — even candles for Washington, D.C., wonks! Here’s everything we talked about: “Trump’s understandable surprise at seeing his company in court” from The Washington Post “Americans Are Still Spending Like There’s No Tomorrow” from The Wall Street Journal Norwegian new car sales from @robbie_andrew on X Introducing the Government Shutdown candle If you’ve got a question for the hosts, send them our way. We’re at 508-UB-SMART or email makemesmart@marketplace.org.