Pnr: This Old Marketing | Content Marketing With Joe Pulizzi And Robert Rose

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Synopsis

Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose, two of the most well-known experts in the content marketing space, talk about the latest content marketing trends and discuss how businesses can use content to attract and retain customers. Each podcast show features a discussion of content marketing headlines, rants from Joe and Robert on what's going on in the industry, and a "This Old Marketing" example from the past (that we can learn from). Always useful, entertaining and never more than 60 minutes.

Episodes

  • The Water Polo-Playing Squirrels Episode (410)

    12/01/2024 Duration: 01h12min

    If you don't get the title, stay until the end. In this episode, Joe and Robert discuss what's happening at CES, including the role of the creator/influencer inside a media company. Netflix, Instagram and Amazon all make major streaming cutbacks. Is this just "right sizing" the business, or is everyone trying to figure out how to compete with TikTok? In rants and raves, it's the end of the third-party cookie on Google, and a new sports bar opens with access to sports from women athletes only. This week's links: CES 2024 Kicks Off What Happens When the Creator Goes Crazy? Netflix Cuts Over 100 Shows CNBC to Start Courses Third-Party Cookies The Sports Bra A Great Kickstarter Example The True Crime Podcast from Robert Riggs ------ This week's sponsors: Smart sales software for today's multitasking reps that's built to help you manage every stage of your sales pipeline with ease. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/sales ------ StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can mu

  • Digital Is Crowdy [The Search for Differentiation] (409)

    05/01/2024 Duration: 01h11min

    Joe and Robert are back from a crazy 2023 with thoughts of Elon and crowdiness. In this episode, Steamboat Willie is released from its copyright shackles. Is there an opportunity for brands in out-of-date content? Fidelity lowers X's valuation even more. Is a turnaround to come? Time appoints a new Chief Events Officer in a clear signal that there is a bull market for in-person events. In rants and raves, Joe comments on the right-sizing of creator businesses, while Robert pontificates on clickbait. This week's links: Mickey Mouse Public Domain Elon's X Gets Another Valuation Drop Time Appoints Chief Events Officer Creators Are Downsizing Advertisers and Clickbait This week's sponsors: Smart sales software for today's multitasking reps that's built to help you manage every stage of your sales pipeline with ease. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/sales ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch a

  • Content Marketing Confessions and Pet Peeves [Special Episode] (408)

    29/12/2023 Duration: 58min

    Joe and Robert take time out of their regular programming to talk about key marketing career challenges and how they overcame them. In addition, the boys do a speed round on content marketing pet peeves. This week's links: Sahil Bloom's Annual Review This week's sponsors: Hubspot's Campaign Assistant is a game-changer for creating marketing campaigns at scale. It quickly turns your key selling points into a cohesive pitch, which helps you deliver knockout emails, ads, and landing pages in minutes. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/campaign-assistant. ------ Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

  • 2024 Content Marketing Predictions Show [Special Episode] (407)

    22/12/2023 Duration: 59min

    It's here! The annual episode where Robert and Joe predict everything that will not go right in the content marketing and media world. This year, the boys predict: A social media collapse - TikTok and YouTube see big surges as the waves of the strike Tsunami hit. AI goes mainstream and actually starts to earn its keep – but NOT in creating externally focused content  but rather conversational Advertising and behind the scenes marketing work. Brands go "all in" on owned media  - especially video. Local news and journalism make a big comeback. At least three, major brands launch new, shiny print publications and send them through the post. X will see a huge advertising turnaround (due to the fact that most everyone left). More eyeballs for less dollars. Newsletters will continue their hot stream, led by creator referral networks, and you'll see more creators stop producing their lagging podcasts. More AI-driven news networks continue to launch, followed by an AI running for president in 2028. This week's spon

  • Short-Form Video Is the New Marketing Gateway Drug (406)

    15/12/2023 Duration: 01h14min

    The latest social media usage results by Pew are out and...surprise, surprise...almost half of all teenagers are on social media "literally all the time." It seems that short-form videos are ruling the day on nearly all platforms. Mega-publisher Axel Springer does a deal with ChatGPT to include news. What does this mean for media companies and the future of search? And everything you know about podcasts might actually be wrong. Rants and raves include permissions on Dropbox and Magna/OpenAP doing a deal. This week's links: Axel Springer Deals with OpenAI Pew Research on Teen Social Media Usage Everything You Know about Podcasts Is Wrong Sounds Profitable Podcast Research Spotify and Audiobook Streaming Dropbox and Third-Party AI How Anxiety Became Content Magna and OpenAP Data Deal This week's sponsors: Hubspot's Campaign Assistant is a game-changer for creating marketing campaigns at scale. It quickly turns your key selling points into a cohesive pitch, which helps you deliver knockout emails, ads, and landi

  • Will Gemini Be Google's Search Savior? (405)

    08/12/2023 Duration: 01h11min

    Google makes their big AI announcement regarding Google Gemini. Can the new AI suite save Google's stalling search business? Is purpose-driven content dead after failures by Bud Light and Target? Joe is skeptical but Robert thinks there is a big opportunity. Spotify announces some big layoffs and a strategic change, while the NCAA might be hiring students in the very near future. Rants and raves include TikTok shopping and a new model for digital ad revenue. This week's links: Google's Gemini Announced Brand Backlash Spotify's Strategic Changes NCAA and NIL Digital Ad Revenue's Up This week's sponsors: Hubspot's Campaign Assistant is a game-changer for creating marketing campaigns at scale. It quickly turns your key selling points into a cohesive pitch, which helps you deliver knockout emails, ads, and landing pages in minutes. Work smarter, not harder at Hubspot.com/campaign-assistant. ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at T

  • Is Elon Destroying X on Purpose? (404)

    01/12/2023 Duration: 01h09min

    Elon Musk's remarks at the recent Dealbook conference show (inconclusive) evidence that he is actually trying to lower X's valuation to such a point to where he can buy the company back (from debtors) at pennies on the dollar. Synthetic (AI) content is on the rise. Google is having major problems with it, and some (experts) say that over 90 percent of all content will be AI generated by 2026. And finally, should creators (and marketers) start thinking about protecting their digital likeness? The boys say yes. Rants and raves include an interesting move by Weibo and Google paying off publishers. This week's links: Joe's Studio Setup Details Here Elon says "Go F' Yourself" The Rapid Rise of Synthetic Content How Creators Own Their Digital Likeness Weibo and Anonymous Creators Google's Publisher Group Shutting Down This week's sponsors: Hubspot's Campaign Assistant is a game-changer for creating marketing campaigns at scale. It quickly turns your key selling points into a cohesive pitch, which helps you deliver

  • The Mess at OpenAI (403)

    24/11/2023 Duration: 01h18min

    Note: This was recorded before Sam Altman was reinstated at OpenAI. Go figure! Joe and Robert go indepth on the soap opera that is OpenAI, and the ramifications on marketers and content creators. X sees another exodus of advertisers. Is this the end of the road for the former blue bird? And TikTok is now used at a key news source for 30 percent of young adults. Should we be scared? Rants and raves include ideas to save local journalism and Buzzfeed's new business model. This week's links: Paul Roetzer's AI Podcast about the History of OpenAI Sam Altman Returns to OpenAI (added link) Sam Altman Joins Microsoft Why OpenAI Blew Up X Responds to Advertisers Jumping Ship Media Matters Grills Elon and X Crisis in Local News BuzzFeed Shifts Business Model This week's sponsors: Why do all that marketing if you can't close the business? Sales Hub supercharges your sales process so you can find, track, and close deals all in one powerful, easy-to-use platform. Suddenly, making deals is no big deal and you’re freed up

  • AI Is Becoming Normalized. That's a Problem. (402)

    17/11/2023 Duration: 01h06min

    The new actors' agreement and Meta's newly released guide for political advertisements tell us one big thing - AI content will begin to flourish. Get ready for massive process and job changes in the very near future directly because of these two announcements. In other news, YouTube has ad blockers going crazy with their new AI-sniffer tools. Have we seen the end of ad blockers? In rants and raves, Joe raves about SNAP's CEO and rants about the new ESPN Bet. Robert raves about Mark Ritson's US marketer call-to-arms. This week's links: The New Actors' Agreement OpenAI Announces New Agents Program Meta to Require AI Disclosures YouTube and Ad Blockers A Challenge to US Marketers This week's sponsors: Why do all that marketing if you can't close the business? Sales Hub supercharges your sales process so you can find, track, and close deals all in one powerful, easy-to-use platform. Suddenly, making deals is no big deal and you’re freed up to focus on what really matters: your customers.  Get smarter about how

  • Grading Our 2023 Content Marketing Predictions [Special Episode] (401)

    10/11/2023 Duration: 54min

    A very special episode where Joe and Robert review their content and marketing predictions from the previous year. Do they make the grade? You need to judge for yourself. TikTok will be banned. Netflix will merge with another streaming platform. LinkedIn will rise to the top. First party data will rule. AI dominates. Google uses AI detector. Content acquisitions on the rise. Recession will be localized to tech only. Cryptopunks and Bored Apes double. Apple will introduce a headset. This week's sponsor: Why do all that marketing if you can't close the business? Sales Hub supercharges your sales process so you can find, track, and close deals all in one powerful, easy-to-use platform. Suddenly, making deals is no big deal and you’re freed up to focus on what really matters: your customers.  Get smarter about how you handle and close your sales by trying Hubspot Sales Hub today.  ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOld

  • AI & The Melting of Truth (400)

    03/11/2023 Duration: 01h07min

    A special 400th episode of This Old Marketing. And yes, the boys are getting up there! Joe and Robert discuss AI announcements by the US President and Microsoft (launching of Copilot), as well as Google integrating AI into search. For AI to work well, it needs to be working from a correct set of information. Is that the case or should we be worried? Elon holds a company meeting and talks about X doing almost everything. It's too bad that Apple and Google have a head start in this area. And Disney buys out the rest of Hulu. Good thing? Regardless, Disney is having operational challenges. Rants and raves include Joe's new website, IP addresses and Omnicom buying Flywheel. This week's links: Biden Signs AI Order Microsoft Launches Copilot Elon's Company Meeting about the Everything App Disney to Buy Rest of Hulu What the Heck is Disney's Problem? Joe Pulizzi's Website IP Addresses Aren't the Answer Omnicom Buys Flywheel This week's sponsor: Why do all that marketing if you can't close the business? Sales Hub su

  • Meta Chooses Profits Over Kids (399)

    27/10/2023 Duration: 01h13min

    Breaking news as X year-over-year numbers plummet. Can the Elon-run social media site recover? Meta, and more specifically Instagram, is being sued by 33 states. The charge? That the company repeatedly misled the public about the dangers of being on their platform. Joe and Robert discuss the sad truth: Meta puts profits (and addiction) ahead of the future of America. Done and done. And finally, new research suggests that trust in media is at an all-time low (and getting worse by the minute). But there is an opportunity. Rants and raves include the B2B creator, TikTok launches an event, and new DC funding for local news. This week's links: X Usage Plummets Meta Instagram Being Sued Media Confidence in the US at a Low DC Lawmakers Introduce Local News Bill Marketing Needs More Marketing The B2B Creator Opportunity TikTok Events OEF Night at the Races This week's sponsor: Why do all that marketing if you can't close the business? Sales Hub supercharges your sales process so you can find, track, and close deals

  • X Makes First Major Move to Payments Platform (398)

    20/10/2023 Duration: 01h10min

    This week the all-knowing Elon announced their "everyone gets charged a dollar" plan. Musk made this sound like it was a "bots" move. Joe and Robert know it's something completely different. Tucker Carlson makes his well-telegraphed move to media company (we called this). What can creators and marketers learn from the move? And marketers are as tense as ever. Is this temporary or just stating the obvious? Rants and raves include a bit of Shakespeare, following by Google and Taylor Swift. This week's links: X Charges One Dollar Tucker Carlson Media Company Marketers Going Mental Google's New Gating Move OEF Night at the Races This week's sponsor: Why do all that marketing if you can't close the business? Sales Hub supercharges your sales process so you can find, track, and close deals all in one powerful, easy-to-use platform. Suddenly, making deals is no big deal and you’re freed up to focus on what really matters: your customers.  Get smarter about how you handle and close your sales by trying Hubspot Sale

  • AI Chatbots Run Amok (397)

    13/10/2023 Duration: 01h08min

    The boys ramp up the show talking about Kendall Jenner's new AI chatbot Billie, brought to you by Meta. Scary? Yes. More to come? Absolutely. Social media sites have been making changes for years that are hurting traffic to media and brand sites. The latest data will bring chills to your web analytics manager. At the same time, X is making some ridiculous moves, including rolling out a new "advertising" program, discouraging links in posts, and barring Linda Yaccarino from any more speaking events. And finally, is Ryan Reynolds responsible for the Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce hookup? Find out the truth today. Rants and raves include more on the writers' and actor's strike and a fresh take from Joe on the movie "Dumb Money". This week's sponsors: Why do all that marketing if you can't close the business? Sales Hub supercharges your sales process so you can find, track, and close deals all in one powerful, easy-to-use platform. Suddenly, making deals is no big deal and you’re freed up to focus on what really matt

  • The Painful Death of X: The Everything App (396)

    06/10/2023 Duration: 01h12min

    The boys are back in real-time talking all things X, Google's podcast moves, and how to drive subscriptions. X CEO Linda Yaccarino does the company no favors with her interview at Vox's CODE conference. Ads are down. Usage is down. The only thing that can save X might be Linda's couch pants. Google podcasts is no more. Alphabet decides to cancel the podcast player and move resources over to YouTube. Good move? And new research is out about who exactly is paying for subscriptions these days. What works and what doesn't? Rants and raves include US student debt and the end of the writers' strike. This week's sponsor: Why do all that marketing if you can't close the business? Sales Hub supercharges your sales process so you can find, track, and close deals all in one powerful, easy-to-use platform. Suddenly, making deals is no big deal and you’re freed up to focus on what really matters: your customers.  Get smarter about how you handle and close your sales by trying Hubspot Sales Hub today.  This week's links:

  • Surviving a Content Marketing World [Special Episode] (395)

    29/09/2023 Duration: 54min

    A special Content Marketing World week episode where Joe and Robert break down their talks from the big event.  Robert goes indepth on content marketing's evolution into, just, marketing. Or is it vice versa? Joe goes through 20+ points about how a content marketer can make the transition to full-time content creator (as a business). The boys also entertain a question from Paris (in a van) from Australia. Finally...Joe and Robert make a big announcement. ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

  • A Media Business Dumpster Fire (394)

    22/09/2023 Duration: 01h09min

    Can anyone save the media business? Joe and Robert discuss the downfall of big media and where the opportunities are for content marketers and creators. Elon is pivoting X/Twitter to subscription only. Incredibly smart or inherently stupid? Scribe Media is not dead (as reported). Good news? And Google plays with politics and Taylor Swift. Rants and raves include Robert's new book (link below) and how we need to buy differently from creators. This week's links: Elon Musk and Subscription Hollywood Giants Slim Down Scribe Is Alive Google to Require AI Disclosure Taylor Swift's Google Easter Egg Robert's Book Content Marketing Strategy ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

  • Amazon Evicts More Creators (393)

    15/09/2023 Duration: 01h10min

    Is Quibi finally dead? Maybe...but the bigger issue is the "right sizing" of the streaming business as a whole. Valuations and investment continue to go lower. The DOJ's trial against Google begins this week. Will anything stand or will Google continue to shake the regulators? And Amazon decides to kill their periodicals business, putting more media companies and creators out of business. Who's at fault? Rants and raves include the greatest pass in Cleveland history, the Apple iPhone 15 announcement, and CAA selling to Pinault. ----- This episode is sponsored by Streamyard. StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. StreamYard’s a popular tool amongst livestreamers, video creators, YouTubers, and podcasters – With features like live streaming, webinars, local recordings, screen sharing and more, StreamYard makes

  • AI Continues To Eat Media Business Models (392)

    08/09/2023 Duration: 01h08min

    Disney, NY Times and CNN are among dozens of major media companies blocking access to ChatGPT. Is this the right move or completely short sighted? Joe and Robert think the latter. At the same time, OpenAI launches their new enterprise product. And Gannett (and others) backtracks on their usage of automated news writing. Is this the right decision? Rants and raves include LinkedIn's new verification partnership with Clear and Charter's problem with Disney. This week's links: ChatGPT Blocked by Media Companies ChatGPT Enterprise Launches Gannett and Others Pull AI Writing LinkedIn Verification Disney/Charter Bundle ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.  

  • The Next Thing in Content, Amazing Cases, and "If We Had a Job" - Office Hours Special Episode (391)

    01/09/2023 Duration: 56min

    A very special episode of This Old Marketing where Joe and Robert take questions from LinkedIn. The boys answer such questions as: Which marketing trend died out faster than expected, and which one will come back? Which company/organization is doing content best today? Other than AI, what the next thing in content marketing? If you had to start over from scratch - no network, connections, favors, etc... and you had $10K to build a cash flow positive business making six figures within one year, what would you do and how would you do it? If you weren't on your own - Which business would you go to work for, and why?   Thanks to everyone who submitted questions. You can see all the LinkedIn questions here. ----- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe at TheTilt.com and get Joe Pulizzi's content creator newsletter 2x per week. Subscribe to Robert Rose's ne

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